Everything you wanted to know about v6 supercharging

[pete]

Here you go Ryan,

Powerdyne
Originally, Need-for-Speed developed this kit for the 94-98 3.8s. I bought most of the pieces from them and fabbed the rest. I also improved the kit over the last 4 years.

Pros
*Ease of install. Its hands down the easiest to install. It requires trimming the fan shroud, drilling a couple of holes to relocate the overflow bottle and a modification to the tensioner bracket. All these mods take maybe 2 hours. Total install takes maybe 4 hours.
*No oil. The Powerdyne uses an internal dry cog belt set-up = no oil lines, no oil to buy or change.
*Intercooled. The Powerdyne does not use an IC...but it really doesn't need one until you really crank the boost up to 12+ psi. Because is doesn't use hot engine oil to pre-heat it and because it has little internal friction like the ProCharger it runs very cool.
*The Powerdyne kit is designed for a suck through MAF but it can be set-up for blow-through as well if you insist on the “cool” BOV sound.
* Kit comes complete with MAF, injectors, pump and chip

Cons
* The BD-11A doesn't have the best reputation for durability. Its a great blower and will serve you well but you must accept that it will prob have to be rebuilt once every 2 years. Under warranty it only costs you shipping. Out of warranty it costs $200 for a rebuild with bearing and belt replacement.

Tools Needed for Install
*3/8" Socket set (Standard & Metric)
*1/2" Socket set (Standard & Metric)
*1/2" Breaker bar and 4" extension
*Adjustable wrench
*Open end wrench set
*Drill and bits
*Needle nose pliers
*Flat screwdriver
*Phillips screwdriver
*Large screwdriver or crowbar
*Factory repair manual
*Hex bit set
*Torx bit set (Just a T-55 only is needed)
*Spark plugs` (Motorcraft AWSF22C)
*Fuel filter if changing filter

General Install Notes
*Read the instructions several times before attempting install. Ask questions before-hand.
*Don’t skimp on the fuel peripherals!
*Get all the tools needed for the install before hand. Both instruction guides list what is needed.
*Lay the kit out on the floor and verify that you have everything you need. This is especially true if you buy a used kit.

Dyno Results
The Powerdyne on my 3.8L, 5spd with nothing more than duals made 290rwhp and 290ft/lbs on a DynoJet SAE.

 

[MaestroSC]

Here you go Ryan,

Awesome Pete, thanks a lot. I'll add that in.

As for the rest of it, if you have anything that should be added/removed from my write-up, please let me know.

 

[TR2002]

good job on the writeup Ryan.

i was just reading through it and saw a part about the intercooler bolts. sucks huh, how procharger would give you these bolts that are about 1 full inch too long and then expect you to be able to get something in the bumper there to hold them while you turn a nut on em. they send some idiot fasteners with their kits lol.


but wierd part is, i got a wrench in there and installed those bolts where they were suppose to be on Brian00Stang's car lol. it was a PITA, but it only took me 5 minutes.

 

[2000Blackone]

Hey Ryan, just thought I'd add a little sumpin' to your post in reference to the longetivity of engine life with a blower. I remember reading in the book "Supercharged" by Corky Bell that he said a supercharger will cut an engine's life by about 10% assuming you installed everything correctly and drive sanely most of the time. I don't know if you can put a number on something like this, but just thought I'd share.

 

[wilderness]

How difficult is it to make the Powerdyne kit blow-through?

 

[BlackWidow R]

What are the differents from the V-2 to the SQ-2?? I got a SQ-2 vortec sitting in my garage and half way installed waiting to finish the install next weekend. Also where could i find a transmission rebuild kit to hold up to 600 hp? Also a built 7.5 rearend hold the power off a V6. Also is the BBK 70 mm throttle body worth it on supercharger?



SQ-2 vortec
long tube mac headers, shorty H, flowmaster Duals,
DTS built 7.5 rearend
spec stage 3 clutch and flywheel
2 inch drop
Black widow bodykit/Hood
Cobra R spoiler/Rims
SSBC brake upgrade.
Polished and ported Intake

 

[MaestroSC]

What are the differents from the V-2 to the SQ-2?? I got a SQ-2 vortec sitting in my garage and half way installed waiting to finish the install next weekend. Also where could i find a transmission rebuild kit to hold up to 600 hp? Also a built 7.5 rearend hold the power off a V6. Also is the BBK 70 mm throttle body worth it on supercharger?



SQ-2 vortec
long tube mac headers, shorty H, flowmaster Duals,
DTS built 7.5 rearend
spec stage 3 clutch and flywheel
2 inch drop
Black widow bodykit/Hood
Cobra R spoiler/Rims
SSBC brake upgrade.
Polished and ported Intake

The difference in the v1 and v2 was posted in the sticky above. Check out the "pros" of the Vortech.

I don't know where to get a tranny built, try a google search to answer that one.

Never heard of anyone having a "built" 7.5. I think because you can get an 8.8 for $650 or less and it has a TLok built in it from the factory.

Not sure on the throttle body, but I doubt it will help much if at all. Good luck on the install. Let us know how it goes!

 

[bluetuesday13]

can i get a link to the powerdyne supercharger for the 3.8 v6. i didnt find it at need4speed.

 

[bluestang00us]

can i get a link to the powerdyne supercharger for the 3.8 v6. i didnt find it at need4speed.

PM Pete or go to the For Sale board and find it listed there.

 

[1bad6]

Great write-up Maestro! You've answered nearly every question that I had about the differences in the various kits in just one post!

 

[bluetuesday13]

what models have ABS? i noticed it was a complication with the ATI procharger.

 

[2000Blackone]

what models have ABS? i noticed it was a complication with the ATI procharger.

ABS is optional on all V6s. You could opt fo the ABS/trac control package when you bought your stang. If you don't know whether or not you have ABS, check your instrument panel to see if there is an ABS that lights up and goes away after a short while. Either that or take her out and slam on the brakes...HARD.
EDIT: I just noticed that you have a 96, not sure if ABS was offered on the V6 back then.

 

[bluetuesday13]

ABS is optional on all V6s. You could opt fo the ABS/trac control package when you bought your stang. If you don't know whether or not you have ABS, check your instrument panel to see if there is an ABS that lights up and goes away after a short while. Either that or take her out and slam on the brakes...HARD.
EDIT: I just noticed that you have a 96, not sure if ABS was offered on the V6 back then.

There is a light but it doesnt come on.

 

[2000Blackone]

There is a light but it doesnt come on.

den you's prolly don't habbit

 

[ImportSlayer]

ABS is optional on all V6s. You could opt fo the ABS/trac control package when you bought your stang. If you don't know whether or not you have ABS, check your instrument panel to see if there is an ABS that lights up and goes away after a short while. Either that or take her out and slam on the brakes...HARD.
EDIT: I just noticed that you have a 96, not sure if ABS was offered on the V6 back then.

I have a 95 and my insurance says I have ABS. I have some sort of discount because of it and I just noticed a few months ago when I renewed my insurance. Before that though, I was sure my car didn't have it. I've hit my brakes hard before and the wheels seems to always lock up and I slide a little. Also, I don't have any ABS lights that light up. Maybe my systems broken, or maybe I just don't have it and my insurance is giving me that discount anyway.

Back to the supercharger thread. I've read about Speedkillz kit and Tuxmasters Turbo kit both recommending sticking with the stock rear end gears. Something to do with boost building or something. Is having a 3.73 or 4.10 in the rear good with the Vortech and Procharger?

 

[MaestroSC]

I have a 95 and my insurance says I have ABS. I have some sort of discount because of it and I just noticed a few months ago when I renewed my insurance. Before that though, I was sure my car didn't have it. I've hit my brakes hard before and the wheels seems to always lock up and I slide a little. Also, I don't have any ABS lights that light up. Maybe my systems broken, or maybe I just don't have it and my insurance is giving me that discount anyway.

Back to the supercharger thread. I've read about Speedkillz kit and Tuxmasters Turbo kit both recommending sticking with the stock rear end gears. Something to do with boost building or something. Is having a 3.73 or 4.10 in the rear good with the Vortech and Procharger?

Well, 1st gear even with 3.27s is about worthless without excellent traction (sticky tires, LCAs, TLok, etc..), so they probably just don't recommend 3.73+ for that reason. It would just be that much worse.

I bet 2nd with 3.73s kicks major butt though!

 

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I didn't think ABS was available on V6s until 98 or 99.

 

[dapack69]

I didn't think ABS was available on V6s until 98 or 99.

I have a 97 and I have ABS.

 

[MattP 343]

weird

 

[fasteach]

i live in rural south eastern ohio, who can you trust close who sells and installs superchargers? about how much can i expect to pay?