My Turn @ Pulling the Trigger on a Twin Turbo

6 Shooter

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Been hacking away doing at least 15 slow rev data logs on an gradual uphill street in my area. Now have access to more parts of the SCT tune and the section I was most interested in was the Front O2 bias section. Was getting most often a 10% more lean in the driver's side than the passenger side. With all the data logs and tune experimentation, have now gotten the results to mostly 1-3% differences. To make changes actually occur, multiple tables must be changed such as timing, bank to bank bias, MAF A/F ratios, O2 upper and lower limits and O2 Transport delay to name a few. The process is not so simple as changing a single number and watching the car respond. Part of the challenge is trying to interpret what Ford Engineers had intended and then guessing where a change or batch of changes needs to occur. And, the changes occur in Closed Loop where the PCM tries to fight the changes a tuner wants/needs to make. The challenge is to trick the PCM after increasing the fuel injectors and the MAF by 500%. It's been doable, but a challenge and many data log analyses.
 

6 Shooter

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Hard to believe, but my photos have been resurrected from the dead. Was able to recover about 99%, all the way back to the beginning of this thread.!! Long story, but got my Photobucket account back, but that was not the fix. Ultimately, the new format of this forum allowed me to go back and edit all grayed out photos and replace them with ones still on my computer.
 

6 Shooter

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Finally made it to the track. Perfect conditions, late afternoon, temps in low 80s, and winds under 10 mph. No clouds to speak of. Last out was spinning the tires on the 1-2 shift with the street tune (10psi) at the same track and the rear moving slightly to the left. Second pass on higher boost (15psi) was even worse. Followup analysis showed some improvements in shift points would help. Same with lower rear tire pressure. Well, it did.

First pass was 15psi, rear tire pressured lowered to 16 psi from 20. Also added a can of Torco Accelerator which raised the 93 octane fuel at the pump to 110 octane for peace of mind and protection from detonation, just in case. The car ran perfectly straight and no spinning of the tires. On the 1/8 mile track, the car ran 104.2 mph in 7.1 seconds. My reaction time was .26 seconds which could easily be lowered with some practice. 60 foot time was 1.86 seconds. And, was so happy that I kept the foot on WOT for the entire length of the track. Have had a habit of letting up on the gas which was fixed on this pass.



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Second pass was worse. Was going for the gold with 21psi of boost. Started and ran straight, but spun the tires on the 1-2 shift and I let off the gas somewhat. Then, did a poor job of not going WOT as the data log showed I kept the throttle at just half of WOT. Even still, the speed was almost the same at 100mph, and the time was 1/2 second slower. Subsequently, have studied the data logs and re-looked at the transmission shifting speeds and the torque converter lock and unlocks. Think I made some small improvements there for the next outing.

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Will try to post the data logs later if possible.
 

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6 Shooter

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Data log is a spreadsheet and is not compatible with the URL. Not able to post. Can only post photos and videos.
 

6 Shooter

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Thanks. Hope to make some gains on the SP3 tune which raises the rear whp to over 600. Have spent the day going over the myriad transmission tuning adjustments for shift points by mph, torque tables, torque friction tables, TQ clutch fill times, TQ lock and unlock points. Can say that a careful and detailed analysis of my very good 500 rear whp data logs have been a tremendous help in fine tuning the transmission. The goal is to make the tables very close to the actual performance of the car, transmission, and motor HP during an optimal run. Hope the next outing will show the 1-2 and 2-3 shifting not quite so hard and slightly slower to help avoid spinning the tires during the shifts. The turbos produce maximum boost at 3000 RPMs, but the rear whp continues to rise. Was shifting at 6500 (1-2), 6700 (2-3), and still in third gear at 104 mph at just 4400 RPMs. Also determined that my rear wheel height is a bit taller than the stock Mustang tires. Thus, my speedometer was low by 10 mph at 94 on the dyno vs 104 on the track slip. One of the hard parts is that no where in the data logs is information on engine torque. However, a number of tables are based on torque. Luckily, I had a dyno run 4 years ago which on the SP2 tune showed 500 rwhp and 593..6 ft lb of torque and around 5500 RPMs. So that number gave me the upper limit of the torque table at WOT and 6000 RPMs. Net result of the data slowed that the torque table needed a 10% reduction across the board.
 
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6 Shooter

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Thanks. Back to the 1/8 mile track this last Sunday. Disappointing results. made one pass with the 21psi boost setting and did no better than the 15 psi boost previously posted. Spun the tires again badly, but mostly stayed on the pedal. Spent this afternoon going through the data log and the transmission shifting points and torque converter lockup speeds in MPH. Spoke to a few experts and gained additional info for improved settings that have been programmed into the car this afternoon. One of the reasons for poor traction at the higher HP settings is that my rear tires are worn out, no tread left to speak of, and too many years of service. New rear tires on order. Bottom line from experts is that tires will get harder and stiffer over time and multiple passes. Won't know if that solves the spinning tires issue or not. Will need another track test. And, my reaction times were beyond terrible. Another thing to work on next trip to the track.
 

6 Shooter

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Back to the 1/8 mile track again Friday night. Made one pass before 4 1/2" of rain shut it down. It was also a bracket race night so, there was some long delays for the test and tune guys before they could make a pass or two. Luckily I changed the rear tires to new ones as the old drag radials would have hydroplaned on the way home in the torrential rains and would probably have wrecked the car going backwards. I purchased 315 x 17" Nitto Drag Radials which are pretty good for the street and were OK in the rains, but did not exceed 45 mph on the highways with my flashers on.

However, my run was not perfect by any means. Did make a 101 mph pass in 7.5 seconds. Otherwise, multiple mistakes on my driving and still spun the tires on the shift from first to second. First mistake was that I did not do a long enough burn out which never smoked the tires. Do have a line lock which locks the front tires, but not the rears. Next time will let them heat up more. Did set the tune for the 21 psi, and did shut off the 4th gear overdrive. Did also get the data logger going which produced some valuable data on RPMs, shift times, etc. My reaction time was beyond terrible at 1.3 seconds. Was in the left lane and the turbo V-8 car in the right lane was staged at the same time. The clock was set with different times due to the bracket racing that night where the green comes on at different times on the right and left lanes based on expected car ETs. Anyway, was way late on my green and the guy on the right lane hit the gas and his motor died or broke on the spot which probably did something to my concentration when I heard his motor pop. Third, I still did not get completely WOT on the gas pedal. Was about 7/8 throttle all the way. But, have moved the seat forward a notch to help with that issue.

In the end, was pleased with the changes to the transmission settings made previously. Did make some minor RPM shift point adjustments which should make for more improvements on the next time at the track.
 
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