** Official Wow: Cataclysm Thread **

[Derick]

Had one for LK, and it was a good thread. Figured we should rock one for Cata too.

on a side note..... game sucks

on an actual wow related discussion note.....

so uh.......

tried to raid for the first time since coming back. i figured at this point there should be no need to inspect a guild run in icc10. they were pugging out two dps spots. i got in late b/c they lost a member (dc) before the lootship.

holy **** they sucked. i wish we would have downed the ship and gotten to saur b/c their actual message in trade was "looking for one LEET dps for icc10. guild run on lootship. 3k+whr minimum."

no way those ****s were 3k. i don't know how they could possibly be under 3k at this point, but i would have loved to raped saur's face and watch them all blow me afterwards.

i'm not a serious raider, but im sick of all the damn scrubs in this game. even with my new experimental rotation, i bet i would have trashed all these ****.

on a patch related note....... i took whirlwind out of my rotation, and i've never spec'd into the instant slam (even pre patch). blizz dropped the cd on bloodthirst down to the 3 secs, and changed the way heroic strike/cleave work. they used to be "on next auto attack", but now they are on 3 sec cds and don't trigger the global. so......

macro1:
/cast heroic strike
/cast bloodthirst

if i have the rage, both of them hit at the same time. pretty wild actually. i wait three secs and do it again. over those three secs, my new ability raging blow is normally ready to rock so i'll blast one of them. by the time it's trigger of the global is up, another hs/bt is ready to go.

this rage starves me pretty big time, but it seems to be working out well. heroic strike is my big hit nowadays......10k+ crit unbuffed on the dummy. bloodthirst hits the second hardest, and raging blow is pretty close too. i don't really see a point in forcing whirlwind in when it does **** damage compared to three attacks that have a 3sec cd no gcd, 3sec cd w/gcd, 6 sec cd w/gcd.


lasty...........

since he's the only other fury warr i know of here, and i know how bad he wants to play.....

(ignore interface and vid settings. this is from a jerk off comp and is in windowed mode w/ min settings)

 

[Drawlin]

too bad war tanks blow even worse than prepatch. even pally tanks are having trouble holding agro.

 

[Derick]

too bad war tanks blow even worse than prepatch. even pally tanks are having trouble holding agro.

yup.

i have a good prot set, and i won't even touch a heroic 5 man. i ran one and didn't do a random. i chose UK b/c its an easy one.

i don't know if it was a combination of me sucking now, or dps knowing im going to have trouble, and intentionally causing problems for me.

i do like the charge stun 3, rend, clap, rend all, schockwave approach, but i can't hold **** for aggro. even after they come off shockwave with another clap on them, the mobs still get pulled from me.

so yeah i only dps in 5mans and thats just to experiment on my rotation, and dual wielding 1hs.

 

[Zero]

Lol @ Grumpy GB2A.

 

[ACAB]

I hate you.


I just did a password retrieval and if I don't get an email saying wtf? In a couple days from the guy it went too I might steal it back

 

[Derick]

I hate you.


I just did a password retrieval and if I don't get an email saying wtf? In a couple days from the guy it went too I might steal it back

this game is sooooooooooooo fun nowadays. i can't believe you're missing out.

do this............

spam hs, bt, rb (raging blow), berserker rage, battle or comm shout

they took out bloodrage, but the buff shouts generate rage now. they are on a 30sec cd so they act like blood rage. berserker doesn't generate **** for rage (like 7), but you need to be enraged to use rb. there is the general "enrage" like there used to be, but if it's not up, berserker rage counts towards using rb as well.

also, heroic strike is devastating b/c of "Incite". - Increase crit chance of HS by 15%. after you crit once with HS, the next HS a 100% chance of being a crit, but this second crit from incite cannot retrigger it.

when i was testing dps, i did a round of auto attack + HS spam. HS ccrit 54% of the time. only buff i had on was battle shout which is a str/agi buff now.

 

[ACAB]

Wow that's a lot of changes since I last played
Took out bloodrage? wtf? The new Heroic Strike sounds awesome, I always spammed it anyways since I always had the rage for it, but nice to see it critting all the time

what is raging blow?

 

[Derick]

what is raging blow?

149% weapon damage from both weapons. must be enraged to use it and it has a 6 sec cd. its up all the time.

"enrage" is triggered 9% of the time from melee attacks so its up quite a bit. berserker rage counts as an enrage too and its on a 24 sec cd. death wish and recklessness also count as enrage effects.

 

[ACAB]

So you're pretty much constantly enraged?

 

[Mr. Ed]

I think the 4.0.1 patch brought new life into the game, but its going to take some time for people to get use to it. Graphics got a little boost, the interface has changed a lot and looks much crisper and nicer, you can interact with it more, and they've made some things simpler (spell book and talent trees). I like the added in armor specializations that will encourage people to wear their proper armor type.

Unfortunately the game is balanced for lv 85 (or so I am told). And it won't be a smooth ride until cata hits and they can work out a few bugs.

This is my first expansion, and I love how blizzard is doing it. I wasn't around for WotLK but from what I hear the changes that come are slow and progressive. For example, right now the screen shakes for a bit and you hear a rumbling (suppose to be deathwing doing his thing). I was expecting everything to be the same up until cata comes out, then all of a sudden it would change. But they are making it more realistic this way.

I'm playing a hunter as my main, and while there were a lot of changes all around I think hunters are having to put a lot more effort into learning their class because of the mana - focus change. Still getting it down pat, and still trying to get my gear optimized but I've gotten a good 3.5k dps increase on boss dummies over the past 2 days.

All in all I like it. Looking forward to December when the actual expansion comes out.

 

[DerangedGoose]

doesnt running a prog windowed take more resources?

 

[ACAB]

I played WoW in windowed all the time. I haven't played in full-screen mode in years

 

[Mr. Ed]

doesnt running a prog windowed take more resources?

Not sure on that one man, but I always run full screen. I run it at max everything and my laptop handles it no prob. Never tried it on the windowed setting though.

 

[Derick]

doesnt running a prog windowed take more resources?

i dunno.

like i said, its just a jerkoff computer. when i play for real, i go full screen with jacked up settings.

windowed mode is used on the jerkoff b/c ill have webpages open to do wow research, and i'll have a spread sheet open to calculate my dps/rotation. pretty much just use windowed when i'm ****ing around, and i've been doing alot of that since teh patch.

 

[ACAB]

i dunno.

like i said, its just a jerkoff computer. when i play for real, i go full screen with jacked up settings.

windowed mode is used on the jerkoff b/c ill have webpages open to do wow research, and i'll have a spread sheet open to calculate my dps/rotation. pretty much just use windowed when i'm ****ing around, and i've been doing alot of that since teh patch.

That's why I use windowed I haven't played seriously in forever. I like grinding levels which is why I want to play when Cata comes out. When I grinded on WOTLK I ended up finding a lot of random people from where I was from and they all had their own guild

 

[Derick]

That's why I use windowed I haven't played seriously in forever. I like grinding levels which is why I want to play when Cata comes out. When I grinded on WOTLK I ended up finding a lot of random people from where I was from and they all had their own guild

I was in a diff guild for a bit, but they were scrubs, and i only played a couple months with them. since i started back in 2005, i've been with one guild the whole time. its myself, and my irl bff.

we used a buddy of his old guild for a bit, but made our own a while ago..... "nWo"......its basically just a bank for us. both of us pretty much just dick around in the game.

im still trying to figure out how to roll a fury warrior since the changes. here are some stats created after doing 2mill damage on a dummy with only battle shout as a buff.....

crit - 71.8%
max - 10199
avg - 8757

hit - 28.2%
max - 4951
avg - 4292

crit - 50.6%
max - 8487
avg - 7242

hit - 49.4%
max - 4120
avg - 3599

crit - 40%
max - 9969
avg - 6532

hit - 60%
max - 4811
avg - 2722

the number of times cast is pretty even so heroic strike pretty much rapes.

 

[TBR]

This patch is probably the worst patch they have ever released. It broke ICC in half the day it released. This week, we couldn't even kill HM LK (Granted we didn't try when Premo said they were having issues), and Halion is unkillable due to bugs as well. So we cleared a horribly boring 11/12, watched as ranged dwarfed melee, and then we were done for the week.

What scares me is it's like they don't even play the game they have made. You nerf a 1.0s Searing Pain spam that crits for 10k, but don't touch the instant-cast 25k conflagrates? You nerf Scorch but not 55k Arcane Blasts? You nerf Insect Swarm but not 8-10k Moonfire spam. All this while ICC and Halion are STILL BUGGED?

To make matters worse - You buff Warrior/Ret/Feral (3 Hybrid) melee DPS, leaving Combat Rogue and a slightly undertuned Mutilate Rogue in the cold?

The worst part? We're going to pay almost full price for Cataclysm (30.00 in Sub Fees), to play a broken game for the next 2 months, while we basically give them a 12 million player beta test for their new talents, on classes that aren't even fun to play without 81+ abilities.

 

[Derick]

watched as ranged dwarfed melee,

i haven't seen this really happen since i haven't ran anything special, but from what i have seen.....its freakin bad.

i used to run a 5 man heroic in fury, and obliterate everyone else in dps. there would be an occassional range to beat or keep up with me.

the few 5 mans i've ran since the patch end up having a caster that will double me up. partly b/c i barely even have time to hit the ****ing things before they are dead.

 

[TBR]

i haven't seen this really happen since i haven't ran anything special, but from what i have seen.....its freakin bad.

i used to run a 5 man heroic in fury, and obliterate everyone else in dps. there would be an occassional range to beat or keep up with me.

the few 5 mans i've ran since the patch end up having a caster that will double me up. partly b/c i barely even have time to hit the ****ing things before they are dead.

In raids, Moonkin/SP/Mages/Locks are doing 25-30k.

Warriors/Ferals/Rets were under 10k

Rogues/DK's were about 14-17k.

Without ICC buffs, casters are still doing 15k on target dummies.

 

[Derick]

In raids, Moonkin/SP/Mages/Locks are doing 25-30k.

Warriors/Ferals/Rets were under 10k

Rogues/DK's were about 14-17k.

Without ICC buffs, casters are still doing 15k on target dummies.

the dummies are out of control. i've been spending quite a bit of time on them playing around. some dumb**** fury was out there saying he was doing 12k unbuffed on the elite dummy. his gear was good but no 1cc25 hard mode ****. at first i thought i was a retard b/c i was only doing half that, but then i realized he's a dumb**** liar.