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Windstar Manifold How To: (Vortech Pics Page 5!)

Discussion in '1994-2004 V6 Mustang Tech' started by skatefreak, Apr 23, 2007.

  1. skatefreak

    skatefreak Active Member

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    Disclaimer: This is how I did my own conversion. There are many things that need to be fabricated so if you don't have the skills or the balls don't try this. Also there where a few things that I wouldn't consider the smartest thing to do to a car but were needed.

    Tool List:
    Full socket set
    Drill + bits
    Hole Stepper Bit
    Vice or a clamp and table
    Wire crimping/cutting tools
    die grinder or other cut off tool

    Materials List:
    Cobra R hood
    Manifold w/ isolator bolts
    3/8" phenolic spacer
    Gasket material (a must)
    New upper gaskets (one for a stock upper and all for the windstar manifold)
    EGR delete (a must)
    Intake tubing (I used a 90 and a 45)
    Intake hoses (too many to name)
    Vacuum T's
    2" wide aluminum plate
    1" wide aluminum plate
    2 Barbed 3/8" fittings (for remote IAC)
    A tap for those fittings (1/4 NPT) maybe different depending on what you pick up
    2' wire 3 different colors (for lengthening the TPS)
    Various wire connectors



    OK start by removing your EGR system. I had to cut the pipe close to the header with a die grinder so I could just put a socket over the end.
    Remove the solenoids, pressure sensor, and valve from head. I pulled the wires back and zip tied them to the fuel rail. Then cap off the port on the head.
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    Next I deleted the PCV system by switching the pcv valve and cap from one side to the other. Them putting a vacuum cap on the driver side and a breather on the PCV valve on the passenger side.

    After that was removing the stock upper manifold. This is pretty simple: first remove the air filter and tubing, then the throttle cables, next the vacuum lines, also the connectors for the TPS and IAC, on the coil pack just simply unbolt it, and finally the 8 bolts that hold it down.
    NOTE: there are two fasteners on the back holding the wiring harness to the upper plenum.
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    So now your upper is off and the engine looks sad, I took this opportunity to clean the lower the best I could.

    Here comes the fun (and stupid part). Even with a 3/8" spacer I still had big clearance issues with the bypass vent and fuel pressure sensor. I used a 1" ID conduit pipe to bend the vent towards the driver side headlight (pull very slowly and only a little at a time), Then used a flat wide bar and a hammer and hit the fuel rail on the fuel pressure flange twice to move it (this made me very worried). Next you have to remove the dowels for the lower and replace them with ones long enough to go through the 3/8" space and the new upper (mine were too long so I cut them with the die grinder until the fit)
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    After you get those clearance issues fixed It's pretty simple. Install the spacer with a new gasket under it. Them replace the gaskets on the Windstar manifold and Bolt it on (be careful as this manifold only needs 15lbs of torque to hold it down). I then Fabbed up some brackets to hold the Throttle cables, coil pack, and to remote mount the IAC. The IAC bracket is the only one I will go into detail as you can see the others and figure them out.
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    On the IAC I made a flange out of 2" aluminum plate from Lowes. Simply use a gasket and trace the pattern on the aluminum. Cut out the (outer) shape using a cut off wheel, hacksaw, whatever you have to cut straight with. then use the inside guidelines to find two places to drill for the barbed fittings. Next tap them and use teflon paste on the fittings.
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    With the TPS you have to lengthen the wires about a foot. Just some simple 14ga wire and connectors and that was done. Since I remote mounted the IAC I didn't have to lengthen those. I just mounted It with some zipties and was done. There is a vacuum port right behind the original IAC mount so thats perfect for you remote mount manifold side.
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    My biggest headache was the intake tubing! I bought a 3" 90 degree and wanted to run it to the stock hole in the fender support. That was impossible with what I had. I figured to run it under the frame rail and inside the splash guard.
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    I went and bought a 3" 45 degree and 2' of 3" coolant hose for O'reilly's and went to work. I made a vacuum port on the tract halfway down for the remote mount IAC. Then made a hole big enough for the MAF in the splash guard. (you must buy a new coolant reservoir)
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    Almost done! Just get the rest of the vacuum lines on, mount the coil (including the clip), and mount/fab some throttle brackets.

    That was pretty much it!

    Enjoy:D

    CLEARANCE
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    DYNO COMING SOON!!!

    PRICE LIST

    Manifold w/ isolators 50
    aluminum 10
    throttle body spacer (optional) 35
    Cobra R hood (optional) 235
    egr delete 30
    hoses 10
    Intake 70

    Total 440

    Thats a high estimate if you have the materials laying around and dont want the hood its less than a hundred. I spent much more just because I bought a tuner, phenolic spacer, 70mm throttle body, and other things at the same time.
     

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  2. StangMod

    StangMod Steven @ VAP Auto

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    Awesome! Good write up. You need to post some pictures though. :thumbup:
     
  3. Jester4Kicks

    Jester4Kicks pwn-hawk

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    Looks good. Add some pics and refine it a little here and there and we'll add it to the forum announcement. ;)

    I might not agree that this particular mod is better than a good port and polish job... but since it's still a viable option, I'd love to include it in our knowledge base.

    Thanks :)
     
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    punypony Sleeper

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    what hood are you running?

    Edit i saw your other thread....i am contemplating doing this....since it appears to offer far better distribution than the stock intake manifold.
     
  5. skatefreak

    skatefreak Active Member

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    I've edited the original so answers are up there. The answers to anymore questions will be added to the original as well.
     
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    Jester4Kicks pwn-hawk

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    If you can, upload the pics to the post... that way the pics stick aruond even if your current image server doesn't. ;)
     
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    StangMod Steven @ VAP Auto

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    A before and after dyno would be incredibly helpful for people evaluating this modification. If anyone else does this, GET IT DYNOED! I for one am very curious how much more efficient this windstar manifold is.

    statefreak, did you notice much of a power difference after you installed it?
     
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    skatefreak Active Member

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    I noticed a lot but I did all the mods in two days so it was a lump. I have too much free time and dyno time is cheap here so I am going to do a before and after just for you guys.
     
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    if you believe mfgr specs, measured at the crank:

    98 windstar: 200 hp, 240 ft-lbs torque
    01 mustang: 193 hp, 225 ft-lbs torque
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    difference: 7 HP 15 ft-lbs
     
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    StangMod Steven @ VAP Auto

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    Great! Are you going to put the stock intake back on just to dyno it?

    Our Mustangs have a less restrictive exhaust, so there is the possibility of more gain. ;)
     
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    I forgot to say, good writeup! If you are going to do the dyno with the mustang intake vs. the windstar intake then I'll donate $10 to the cause. let me know when/where you've got your dyno time scheduled and I will paypal it to you.
    :idea: :thumbup:
     
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    StangMod Steven @ VAP Auto

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    I can do the same. :thumbup:
     
  13. skatefreak

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    Yeah I am going completely back (other than exhaust). The dyno shop here is great (tulsadyno.com) they will actually let me sit on the dyno and work on the car as long as I want (if there are no other appointments). I have a supercharged 325is and a Methanol Turbo 510, I have spent countless hours there.
     
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    Xerxeese Hoosier Daddy

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    Why the cobra hood ? Where does the stock hood hit ?

    I ask because I want to do this mod, but dont want to change my already aftermarket hood.
     
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    it hit from the IAC all the way forward, in fact even with 2 1/2 cowl its only 1/2" clearance
     
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    m48xhp The Voice of Treason

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    Well I ran it last night at Texas motorplex and my best time was a 15.157 @ 92.32 mph ( I still don't have the detroit locker posi installed ) So I spun a lot.
    I think with the right shocks, posi, tires, control arms, and disconnecting my sway bars, I could easily get into the high 14s. Thats all on motor!
     
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    m48xhp The Voice of Treason

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    what else is done to your car?
     
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    Windstar upper manifold
    3" custom intake
    BBK 70mm throttle body
    3/8" phenolic spacer
    Pypes x-pipe
    Flowtech Warlock mufflers
    SCT tuner
    73mm MAF housing

    NO posi!
    Street tires!

    Here is the video
    Me vs. 5.0
     
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    m48xhp The Voice of Treason

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    stick or auto? if a stick id figure youd go faster.